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Just Stand · Jun 23, 2009, 12:29 PM // 12:29

R/A

[Golden Fox Strike][Wild Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike (elite)][Lightning Reflexes][Dwarven Stability][optional][optional]

Any improvements/tips?
usually only use this in NM for fun, sometimes vanqs.
Any reason why this wouldn't work? Obviously it is more efficient on a sin because of Critical Strikes attribute.

Zealous Daggers, +30hp, 15^50
Mainly Radiant/ Attunment runes with Vigor Rune, +2 expertise (+1 head, +1 minor rune)

Expertise 12+1+1
Dagger Mastery 12

(If using shadow refuge/ death's charge)
Expertise 10+1+1
Dagger Mastery 12
Shadow Arts 8

Lux Aeterna · Jun 23, 2009, 03:16 PM // 15:16

This build works pretty well.

Sookie · Jun 23, 2009, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Attributes? Equipment/Armor? Procedure?

I have a Ranger character who has cobwebs in her hair. I would be interested in invigorating her play.

FoxBat · Jun 23, 2009, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Critical strikes is just an energy attribute, exp covers that. You can stack critical agility with dash but that's about it. Only real disadvantage is smaller blossoms without a rune, but it's minor.

Mindbender for IMS?

Prolly not worth it... or just throw fallback/incoming somewhere or the warrior henches. I like party speed buffs for most PvE anyway.

elk · Jun 23, 2009, 04:55 PM // 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Critical strikes is just an energy attribute, exp covers that.

careful about that. Granted there is an engery return on the primary attribute, it does increase the chance of a critical strike which does increase base dmg.

Critical Hit

Excluding runes and a similar weapon attribute stat, the sin's primary attribute should result in a higher base damage than the Ranger.

elk

FoxBat · Jun 23, 2009, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by elk

it does increase the chance of a critical strike which does increase base dmg.

Except dagger base damage is a joke, especially against high armor, plus moebius is mostly about blossom AoE.

elk · Jun 23, 2009, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Except dagger base damage is a joke, especially against high armor, plus moebius is mostly about blossom AoE.

which is a tangent unto itself. You mentioned critical strikes is just an energy attribute but there's obviously a little more to it regardless of target AL.

Now based on what you just said, to meet the condition of Moebius, you need the target below 50% to start the recharge cycle so base dmg and skill based + dmg comes into play. Yet again in the favor of a sin even if we're still at the same attribute levels for the weapon (marginal but still in favor).

Not saying a R/A isn't viable and I've have played a many variations myself but think this is a bit of an apples/oranges situation.

elk

FoxBat · Jun 24, 2009, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by elk

marginal

Yes. All I'm saying is I don't need to hear the usual "you're bad cuz your build is .1% less effective than another class", which guru (not you yet) tends to regurgitate alot.

elk · Jun 24, 2009, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by FoxBat

Yes. All I'm saying is I don't need to hear the usual "you're bad cuz your build is .1% less effective than another class", which guru (not you yet) tends to regurgitate alot.

sigh - it's totally .33333% repeating more effective...

Sheesh!

elk

p.s. if anyone actually takes the time to determine the effiecency difference and prove this wrong, I will; as monty python woud put it, 'taunt you a 2nd time'.

M @ T · Jun 25, 2009, 09:43 AM // 09:43

Dagger wielding Ranger. Sounds RAish. nuff said imo.

WhiteAsIce · Jun 25, 2009, 06:55 PM // 18:55

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:R/A_PvE_Dagger_Ranger
Like this???

I tossed in Asuran Scan FTW, as well as Brawling Headbutt just for the heck of it.